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	<title>Comments on: on text taking precedence</title>
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	<description>A mix of musings from Kristin Harpster Lawrence</description>
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		<title>By: jubal</title>
		<link>http://khlawrence.wordpress.com/2008/03/06/text-takes-precedence/#comment-27</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 23:51:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fortunately I&#039;ve been spared from working directly with the librarians on the project. I&#039;ve been working with the system administrators who make the tools for librarians to enter and maintain content.  UNM seems very forward thinking about the whole process, very willing to invest in new tools and techniques. I can only assume and hope that other Universities are as progressive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fortunately I&#8217;ve been spared from working directly with the librarians on the project. I&#8217;ve been working with the system administrators who make the tools for librarians to enter and maintain content.  UNM seems very forward thinking about the whole process, very willing to invest in new tools and techniques. I can only assume and hope that other Universities are as progressive.</p>
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		<title>By: khlawrence</title>
		<link>http://khlawrence.wordpress.com/2008/03/06/text-takes-precedence/#comment-25</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 12:42:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jubal,

I love the idea of sucking out relevant content. I love the idea of text being relevant. Text-taking-precedence means text-as-information, usable information. I love the idea of information being flexible, searchable, applicable. The information publishers (e.g., Cengage/Gale) are way, way ahead of university presses in terms of producing text as information in database formats and online formats, text-suck-outable formats. It&#039;s really kind of funny, and this is why you probably think of university presses as quaint (not your word, I know): we are considered prestigious for publishing scholarship that helps professors attain tenure and that we all say deserves to be out there to be read by even a few hundred readers, yet we&#039;re slow to adopt changes that will propel that text to a larger audience.

I&#039;d like to hear more about your project. It looks like you&#039;re working with the University of Minnesota library system. What&#039;s that like, working with the librarians?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jubal,</p>
<p>I love the idea of sucking out relevant content. I love the idea of text being relevant. Text-taking-precedence means text-as-information, usable information. I love the idea of information being flexible, searchable, applicable. The information publishers (e.g., Cengage/Gale) are way, way ahead of university presses in terms of producing text as information in database formats and online formats, text-suck-outable formats. It&#8217;s really kind of funny, and this is why you probably think of university presses as quaint (not your word, I know): we are considered prestigious for publishing scholarship that helps professors attain tenure and that we all say deserves to be out there to be read by even a few hundred readers, yet we&#8217;re slow to adopt changes that will propel that text to a larger audience.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to hear more about your project. It looks like you&#8217;re working with the University of Minnesota library system. What&#8217;s that like, working with the librarians?</p>
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		<title>By: khlawrence</title>
		<link>http://khlawrence.wordpress.com/2008/03/06/text-takes-precedence/#comment-24</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 12:27:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Laurie,

I have no argument with what you&#039;re saying. What I was getting at is that I consider design as a vehicle for content. Still, I like to have our books look and feel good, and that&#039;s beyond design as a vehicle. Readers look beyond text with bad breaks or crashing quotes. Most of us even overlook errors of spelling, grammar, and punctuation. I feel mildly annoyed and self-righteous when I see them, but I move right along, because I know they are unavoidable with the pressured workflow at a publisher.

What I was pointing out was the difference between book as text and book as package. Until I became responsible for the look and feel of our books (always collaborating with others, of course), I paid very little conscience attention to lamination, paper weight, and color. Now I do, and perhaps as a result I have less time and energy to devote to adopting innovations. Perhaps less motivation too--because people will always buy books. They&#039;re a lovely and convenient package.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Laurie,</p>
<p>I have no argument with what you&#8217;re saying. What I was getting at is that I consider design as a vehicle for content. Still, I like to have our books look and feel good, and that&#8217;s beyond design as a vehicle. Readers look beyond text with bad breaks or crashing quotes. Most of us even overlook errors of spelling, grammar, and punctuation. I feel mildly annoyed and self-righteous when I see them, but I move right along, because I know they are unavoidable with the pressured workflow at a publisher.</p>
<p>What I was pointing out was the difference between book as text and book as package. Until I became responsible for the look and feel of our books (always collaborating with others, of course), I paid very little conscience attention to lamination, paper weight, and color. Now I do, and perhaps as a result I have less time and energy to devote to adopting innovations. Perhaps less motivation too&#8211;because people will always buy books. They&#8217;re a lovely and convenient package.</p>
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		<title>By: jubal harpster</title>
		<link>http://khlawrence.wordpress.com/2008/03/06/text-takes-precedence/#comment-23</link>
		<dc:creator>jubal harpster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 04:42:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Text only publications are going the way of the dino-bot. There is so much more we can do with XML representations of content. 

My current project is connecting bibliographic references with spatial or geographic context. The first &#039;bibliospatial&#039; system as far as I know (http://harvestchoice.org/).  By simply sucking out the geospatial references in the text we can produce maps and associated data which are directly relavent to the content of the article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Text only publications are going the way of the dino-bot. There is so much more we can do with XML representations of content. </p>
<p>My current project is connecting bibliographic references with spatial or geographic context. The first &#8216;bibliospatial&#8217; system as far as I know (<a href="http://harvestchoice.org/)" rel="nofollow">http://harvestchoice.org/)</a>.  By simply sucking out the geospatial references in the text we can produce maps and associated data which are directly relavent to the content of the article.</p>
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		<title>By: Laurie NYC</title>
		<link>http://khlawrence.wordpress.com/2008/03/06/text-takes-precedence/#comment-22</link>
		<dc:creator>Laurie NYC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 23:27:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Content is certainly the most important element in any book, but because of that fact, we cannot overlook the importance of communicating that content to the reader. Good design aids communication; it is not just about &quot;aesthetics.&quot; Poor typography is hard to read, and makes the reader expend precious &quot;brain&quot; energy on deciphering the content, rather than on the content itself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Content is certainly the most important element in any book, but because of that fact, we cannot overlook the importance of communicating that content to the reader. Good design aids communication; it is not just about &#8220;aesthetics.&#8221; Poor typography is hard to read, and makes the reader expend precious &#8220;brain&#8221; energy on deciphering the content, rather than on the content itself.</p>
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